FAQ

IMPORTANT!: Due to extremely dry conditions the BLM has imposed Stage II fire restrictions for much of California, including our launch site on Lucerne Dry Lake. Note that Highway 247 is the boundary, and the area on the East side of 247 is under stage I restrictions.

Under Stage II restriction:
*No open fires of any kind are allowed.
*Controlled flame devices such as portable stoves and lanterns with shut-off valves, using gas, jellied petroleum, or pressurized liquid fuel are allowed with a valid California Campfire Permit (see link below).
*Smoking is allowed inside vehicles or camp trailers, but no smoking is allowed outside.
These restrictions run through October 28, 2022.

Since our BLM permit and FAA Certificate of Authorization specifically allow rocket launching, we may continue to hold our scheduled and permitted launches.

https://www.readyforwildfire.org/permits/campfire-permit/

1. When is LDRS 40?
LDRS 40 is scheduled for Thursday, June 9, to Sunday, June 12, 2022. That’s four full days of flying!.

2. How much will the fees be? 
The daily rate at the lakebed will be $20 per day.
Spectator Fee: Free!
Camping on the lakebed: Free!

3. Where is Lucerne Dry Lake?
Lucerne Dry Lake is in San Bernardino County, California about 2 hours northeast of Los Angeles. Visit the Launch Site Information Page for directions and more details.

4. What’s the waiver going to be?
The FAA waiver for LDRS 40 will be 14,500 feet Above Ground Level (17,500′ MSL).  We can also ask for call-in windows to 19,000’AGL (22,000′ MSL), with air traffic control approval.

5. What about Research Motors?
Motors are limited to those approved by the Office of the State Fire Marshall (OSFM). Aerotech, CTI, Quest, and Estes motors are good to go. For any other manufacturer be prepared to show that the motor, accompanying paperwork, or the packaging has the California OSFM stamp.
We have been in contact with the OSFM, and have confirmed that no exemption is possible.

6. What about California Impulse Limits?
For a launch site the size of ours, the impulse limit is 10,240NS (a full “M”) total impulse.

7. How do I become a vendor at LDRS 40?
ROC is encouraging vending at LDRS 40 and will be setting aside prime flight-line space for vendors at the launch. LDRS 40 takes place on federally managed land. In addition to business license and sales tax requirements, you must get a BLM permit to conduct business at LDRS 40. Visit the Vendors page for details on becoming a vendor.

8. Will there be hybrid equipment at LDRS 40?
No. California regulations do not allow hybrids at our launches. As previous stated, all motors at our launches must be listed by the OSFM. No hybrids are listed.

9. Is there an “official” hotel for LDRS 40?
ROC is pleased to announce that the LDRS 40 Host Hotel is: Holiday Inn, 15494 Palmdale Rd, Victorville, CA 92392. Click the hotel link above for more information.

10. Is there a place nearby to rent RVs?
JR RV Rental, LLC, in Apple Valley is known for supplying the best RV, trailers, and 5th wheels for your next camping trip. Delivery and setup are available to make everything easier for your trip without the hassle of towing a trailer.

11. Can a youth group attend LDRS?
LDRS is primarily a high-power launch, so our emphasis will be on providing launch pads for high-power rockets. There will be a limited number of low-power pads available.
Since LDRS is a special launch, there are special fees to fly, with no provision for youth discounts. Each adult flyer must register and pay the flight fees.
Everyone is welcome to come to watch, and visit our vendors! There is no fee for spectators.

12. Where will the Tripoli Banquet be held?
ROC is pleased to announce that the Banquet on Saturday, June 11th will be held at the Holiday Inn, 15494 Palmdale Rd, Victorville, CA 92392

13. Can I bring my dog to LDRS 40?
We strongly recommend against it! The launch site is an extreme environment that is potentially dangerous to dogs (and other living things). The high temperature in June ranges from the low 90s to well over a hundred degrees F, depending on the year. The only shade is what you bring with you. A dog, or anyone else, who is not acclimated can overheat and dehydrate very quickly. For a dog, it is difficult to tell anyone about the symptoms in time to get help. Heat illness can become life-threatening in the time it takes you to launch and recover a rocket!
For Veterinary Care:
Bear Valley Animal Hospital

20991 Bear Valley Rd
Apple Valley, CA 92308
Phone:(760) 240-5228
Hours:  Monday – Friday 7:30AM–6PM,  Saturday 8AM–4PM,  Sunday Closed
Animal Care Hospital
21554 Outer Hwy 18 N
Apple Valley, CA 92307
Phone:(760) 247-0292
Hours:  Monday – Friday 8AM–5PM,  Saturday 8AM–12PM,  Sunday Closed

14. Will there be night flying at LDRS 40?
Night flying is planned for Thursday and Friday evenings, weather permitting. Each rocket flying after dark must have a light on board that will be visible from the range head during the entire flight.

15. What if I need to communicate with the LCO from out on the range?
ROC has commercial band radios that can be borrowed for use when needed.